How to use tip boxes on Tecan Evo

In our lab we typically do not use free hanging tips in stead we use tip boxes that we place on carriers.

I cannot find any such tip boxes in PLR. Am i looking in the wrong place or do need to build them my self?
If i need to build them my self then where is a good place to start?

the Tecan that Wilson originally developed the backend on had fixed tips, this may not have been tested. pick_up_tips and drop_tips are implemented on the backend though. And I see many tip racks in pylabrobot.resources.tecan.tip_racks. Are you able to use this?

(also: lots of things changed since someone last used a Tecan with PLR, so there may be some things we need to update. Please keep making posts so I can help :))

No i cannot use them on the deck spot that i want(MP_3Pos). This is the same in the EvoWare software, but there i go in an check the allowed on labware box, so that it can be placed on the position.
Unfortunelty i dont know how you would do this in PLR?

Could you explain a bit more? Is this on a carrier or a fixed position on the deck. I am not too familiar with Tecan :sweat_smile:

Here is picture showing how allow a 1000ul LiHa tip box to be added to a carrier. This is a “MCA96 Carrier 4 pos” carrier but it is the same way that you would add to another carrier type.

Here is a picture of the error that i get in PLR:

I can see that i need to find a way to allow PlateCarrierSite to accept tips. In the EvoWare program a tip box is implied when placing tips on a PlateCarrierSite if the user enables it. I dont know if the same would be the case in PLR.

In that case, I don’t think the ‘MCA96 Carrier’ is really a plate carrier (in PLR they only carry plates). Does it have a hole for the tips to go, and do the plate rests on the edges? Is there a physical part you have to move? How does this work? Would you be able to share a picture of the physical resource? What I’m thinking is we should model these as just Carriers rathern than {Plate,Tip}Carrier.

No idea what this actually looks like in real life. But for Hamilton fixed deck positions we called “pedestals” not sure if this will help with naming or not

in PLR, pedestals are actually just the elevated part of (many) plate carriers: (in blue)

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Here is a picture of how the deck looks IRL. You ca see that there is no MP_3Pos. That is because i wanted to use it as a reference for building the “MCA96 Carrier 4 pos”.

We typically do not use hanging tips as tip boxes are just much easier to move arround and thereby gives us more flexibility in our workflows. The tip boxes i want to place on the deck look like this:

Good point to model them as just Carriers as we use them for both tips and plates.

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anything i can do to help with remodeling them as Carriers?